Beau Jones added Braves deal
The Rangers are going to get another pitcher in the Braves deal. In addition to Matt Harrison, the Rangers are also going to get Class A pitcher Beau Jones, who was the 41st overall pick of the June draft. His record at Class A Rome is 5-0 with a 2.96 ERA in 482/3 innings with 46 strikeouts and 12 walks.
The Rangers will also get Matt Harrison, making it five players in return for Mark Teixeira and Ron Mahay.
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wow, 1-2nd sandwich pick too! wow!
Class A Rome is 5-0 with a 2.96 ERA in 482/3 innings with 46 strikeouts and 12 walks.
Thats pretty impressive numbers for a kid that was just thrown into a deal. This trade looks pretty good. I think JD is doing a great job. If we can just get Gabbard, I will be real happy.
Jones makes the Texeira trade look that much better.
The players we’re getting from Boston are supposed to be Kason Gabbard, AAA outfielder David Murphy, and a 17 year old five tool kid from rookie league named Engles Beltre.
Rangers did a great job, theygot rid of two expensive Boras clients and got great propects in return. Good trading, hopefully these will outway the Chris Young, and Soriano trades.
did you see where tex was offered 8/140 mil and he turned it down? he was gone anyway…
and what about a ml starting pitcher? kason gabbard, his era is 3.73 in seven starts (41 innings) that’s nearly 6 per start, low whip and decent k’s…bye tejada!
red sox fans are mad that gabbard was “given” away for a two-month rental.
Okay, oaky. As mad as I was yesterday, this does take some of the sting out of the Tex deal. I still think we could have done better – like Jo-Jo Reyes, Manny Acosta or Kyle Davies + Salty instead of all these Minor Leaguers – but this does take the sting out. I said yesterday, the Rangers had better make that guy to be named count… they did.
As for the Gagne deal… WOW!!!
Chalk one up for JD. Great return for an old washed up closer. The Red Sox are nuts. Getting Kason Gabbard, now that does make the Tex thing sting a lot less.
why do you want kyle davies, he just got demoted and then traded….for a 40 something yr old dotel… straight up.
with ANY luck 1/2 of these guys become solid major leaguers for us…as high as some are rated, as safe as some are (gabbard to an extent) and so on. thats 1/2 the field.
Looks like the Rangers were concerned about Harrisons health, so Atlanta went ahead and gave them Jones also to seal the deal. Hopefully Harrison is ok. Good Job boy wonder.
I was just using Davies as an example… he wouldn’t have been my pick. But if we are rebuilding here, all these guys from Atlanta are about 3-5 years away from their MLB debuts. And that may be conservative. Yes, they could be good for us, but that’s a long ways down the road. Most of these guys are not even in AA yet, and prospects tend to come and go when they make the A to AA leap. A-ball prospects are the pocket change of baseball.
Try this analogy: we had a $100 bill (Tex and Mahay) that we admittedly did not need, so we broke it for a $50 (Salty) and a bunch of change that may or may not amount to be equal to what we gave up. A good deal? Not really, but we at least got rid of the $100 bill…
Regardless, JD made up for a lot of that with the Boston deal. Now that was a steal.
That money anology doesn’t make a bit of **** sense when you’re talking about a known quantitly in exchange for prospects.
lonestar, before you freak, i think it would be better to look at the “100 dollar analogy” this way.
you have 100, you spend 50 on a high-yield mutual fund (salty)
and by 4 stocks that are 12.50 each, but are at the cusp of doing something, lets say they are brand new IPO’s (initial public offerings, new stock) and 1 may be google and 1 may be a flop, 1 may be honda and one maybe Yugo, but one of them will at least be worth 75 pretty soon (salty) so one of the prospects will at least turn into mahay because we all know that mahay’s value was about 12 bucks in 2 months. And since trade turned down 140mil and 8yrs, he would have been worth a wooden nickel next year….we sold high.
also, this from yahoo:
Trade winners
Braves (obviously)
• Texas Rangers: Maybe Jon Daniels would have been better served focusing on one big prospect for Gagne instead of his three-player haul. And perhaps he could have gotten more than one big-league-ready player for Teixeira and Mahay. Both are just picking nits. Daniels turned around a bereft farm system over a whirlwind 24 hours, and while that might not be enough to save his job over the next year or two, it could leave his incumbent sitting pretty.
Well, shanetackett, you’ve proved you know a heckuva lot more about money than me… but my point was while this might help us in the long, long haul, it won’t help this current team enough in the next year or two. I think it might have been wiser to supplement the team we have now, and focus on adding the peices required to turn this current team into a winning ball club. You act as if our current club is totally devoid of talent. It’s not. In my opinion, we need to turn this club into a winner while we still have core components like Young and Blalock to build around. By the time these prospects are ready, our core players, namely Young, will be past their prime, and we’ll need to be looking at replacing them. What’s the use of healing today’s ills tomorrow when tomorrow will no doubt bring a multitude of new ones?
To lonestar:
Unfortunately, that’s what Tom Hicks and John Hart were thinking back when they signed A-Rod, Chan Ho Park, Jay Powell, Todd Van Poppel, along with some other “supplemental” acquisitions. You know how that period of well-intended (yet devastating) splurging turned out.
Also, there isn’t going to be much of the talent the Rangers need available in the offseason (namely starting pitching) with the exception of one worthy ace (Carlos Zambrano). But he might re-sign with the Cubs or sign with certain New York team that’s starving for pitching. So why risk the opportunity of fixing this team the right way, for a chance at being just mediocre next season?
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Your point about the lack of starting pitching to be available this winter is exactly why the Teixeira trade is a disaster. To trade a solid lefty reliever and the PREMEIRE bat on the market (and one under contract for another year) and NOT get a major-league ready pitcher is inexcusable.
JD made a very good trade today, but we should have two new rotation-ready pitchers instead of one (Gabbard) after trading Teixeira, Gagne, Mahay and Lofton.
Instead, we have to pray that the Rangers somehow break tradition and turn at least 2 prospects (including the ones that were already here) into winning major league starters. The prospect of prospects becomming winners in Arlington (it’s only happened once in Rangers history – Kevin Brown)are very low.
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Fair enough. Unfortunately, the reality is this. The Tigers were not offering Andrew Miller. The Giants didn’t want to part with Lincecum, Cain, or Noah Lowry. Hughes, Billingsley, Broxton. You name them. They were not going to get traded.
Last year’s “premiere” bat was Carlos Lee. Did the Brewers get any major league ready pitching? No. They got a struggling closer, a popular yet inconsistent outfielder, an oft-injured CF, and a minor leaguer; while giving up “the premier bat” in the market, Nelson Cruz (who’s really starting to heat up), and two 1st round draft picks (Blake Beavan & Julio Borbon).
Young big league arms are not easy to trade for. Joe Blanton’s price was higher than what the Rangers were asking for Teixeira.
Enough with the what might’ve and what might’ve been…the fact is this, we as Ranger fans have to find a way to welcome Kason (groundballing) Gabbard to our rotation! Is it the prosepects fault for being so good and being young? We’re set for ’09, maybe even ’08 with the money we’ve saved. Look at the future Rangers fans, after all this bad, a TRUE RANGER FAN, WILL ALWAYS THINK IT’S GONNA GET BETTER! I would like to think that somebody will put their arms around Micheal Young and tell him to hang in there, hopefully the team chemistry is what we hope it is. The guy has been nothing but what we can ask for, consistent, solid, and an all around nice guy. Whoever it may be, Saltalamacchia (or “spicey” as he would be called here in TX!) try to listen and be what JD, me, and the Biggest State of Baseball, want you to be, a solid, all around nice guy…(with of course .300avg,25HR,100RBI), c’mon spicey, can’t be that easy just to be nice. Biggest State of Baseball’s counting on ya, ya here?
Rangersorrobbers, which major league ready pitchers are you talking about? Because there were none available. You can’t force a GM to give up Billingsly or Miller if they don’t want to and all your squawking is going to change that.
Please, tell us which decent major-league-ready starter got traded. And no. Joel Pineiro, Matt Morris, and Kyle Lohse don’t count.